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		<title>By: David Reich</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/103/pitching-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>David Reich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake, I see no problem with PR people pitching bloggers, as long as it&#039;s done properly.  And that means with respect and consideration for a blogger&#039;s time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s the PR person&#039;s responsibility to check the blogs he plans to pitch to see if what they normally cover is relevant to what he wants to pitch.  The blogger should be approached with a brief and to-the-point email asking if they&#039;d like to see a release and/or additional information.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sending mass emails to bloggers is as wasteful as sending mass news release mailings to every newspaper in the Bacon&#039;s media directory. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Cultivating a &quot;relationship&quot; with a blogger isn&#039;t necessary, although it can be enjoyable and productive for both parties.
		
			

			
		
		
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake, I see no problem with PR people pitching bloggers, as long as it&#8217;s done properly.  And that means with respect and consideration for a blogger&#8217;s time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the PR person&#8217;s responsibility to check the blogs he plans to pitch to see if what they normally cover is relevant to what he wants to pitch.  The blogger should be approached with a brief and to-the-point email asking if they&#8217;d like to see a release and/or additional information.  </p>
<p>Sending mass emails to bloggers is as wasteful as sending mass news release mailings to every newspaper in the Bacon&#8217;s media directory. </p>
<p>Cultivating a &#8220;relationship&#8221; with a blogger isn&#8217;t necessary, although it can be enjoyable and productive for both parties.</p>
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		<title>By: David Reich</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/103/pitching-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-36421</link>
		<dc:creator>David Reich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake, I see no problem with PR people pitching bloggers, as long as it&#039;s done properly.  And that means with respect and consideration for a blogger&#039;s time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s the PR person&#039;s responsibility to check the blogs he plans to pitch to see if what they normally cover is relevant to what he wants to pitch.  The blogger should be approached with a brief and to-the-point email asking if they&#039;d like to see a release and/or additional information.  &lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sending mass emails to bloggers is as wasteful as sending mass news release mailings to every newspaper in the Bacon&#039;s media directory. &lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cultivating a &quot;relationship&quot; with a blogger isn&#039;t necessary, although it can be enjoyable and productive for both parties.&lt;br&gt;		&lt;br&gt;			&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;			&lt;br&gt;		&lt;br&gt;		&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake, I see no problem with PR people pitching bloggers, as long as it&#8217;s done properly.  And that means with respect and consideration for a blogger&#8217;s time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the PR person&#8217;s responsibility to check the blogs he plans to pitch to see if what they normally cover is relevant to what he wants to pitch.  The blogger should be approached with a brief and to-the-point email asking if they&#8217;d like to see a release and/or additional information.  </p>
<p>Sending mass emails to bloggers is as wasteful as sending mass news release mailings to every newspaper in the Bacon&#8217;s media directory. </p>
<p>Cultivating a &#8220;relationship&#8221; with a blogger isn&#8217;t necessary, although it can be enjoyable and productive for both parties.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake McKee</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/103/pitching-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake McKee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the info - makes much more sense. I totally understand that people are busy, but this is part of my beef with traditional PR (and advertising and marketing) business models - the client is NOT always right, and it&#039;s the role, the duty of the firm to help the client understand that. Service firms are FAR too scared of losing business. It&#039;s a vicious circle we get into with clients where we want to make sure they stay happy with us, so we give them what they expect/want regardless of potential success. It&#039;s a tricky balance, but I&#039;d love to see agencies of all sorts say &quot;no thanks&quot; to business more often. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other point I&#039;d make is that a &quot;relationship&quot; can take many forms. Some forms take years to build, others minutes. It&#039;s a mindset as much as a tactic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle,</p>
<p>Thanks for the info &#8211; makes much more sense. I totally understand that people are busy, but this is part of my beef with traditional PR (and advertising and marketing) business models &#8211; the client is NOT always right, and it&#8217;s the role, the duty of the firm to help the client understand that. Service firms are FAR too scared of losing business. It&#8217;s a vicious circle we get into with clients where we want to make sure they stay happy with us, so we give them what they expect/want regardless of potential success. It&#8217;s a tricky balance, but I&#8217;d love to see agencies of all sorts say &#8220;no thanks&#8221; to business more often. </p>
<p>The other point I&#8217;d make is that a &#8220;relationship&#8221; can take many forms. Some forms take years to build, others minutes. It&#8217;s a mindset as much as a tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Marts</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/103/pitching-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Marts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Jake - that was kinda of confusing on my part. The PR kids have a job to do and an agenda...so I think sometimes its difficult for them to get a good conversation going or the time to cultivate the relationship. At least our clients always seem expect results very quickly. But yes, I agree that approaching bloggers in the same way you approach a journalist isn&#039;t going to be effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jake &#8211; that was kinda of confusing on my part. The PR kids have a job to do and an agenda&#8230;so I think sometimes its difficult for them to get a good conversation going or the time to cultivate the relationship. At least our clients always seem expect results very quickly. But yes, I agree that approaching bloggers in the same way you approach a journalist isn&#8217;t going to be effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake McKee</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/103/pitching-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-36420</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake McKee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle,&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the info - makes much more sense. I totally understand that people are busy, but this is part of my beef with traditional PR (and advertising and marketing) business models - the client is NOT always right, and it&#039;s the role, the duty of the firm to help the client understand that. Service firms are FAR too scared of losing business. It&#039;s a vicious circle we get into with clients where we want to make sure they stay happy with us, so we give them what they expect/want regardless of potential success. It&#039;s a tricky balance, but I&#039;d love to see agencies of all sorts say &quot;no thanks&quot; to business more often. &lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The other point I&#039;d make is that a &quot;relationship&quot; can take many forms. Some forms take years to build, others minutes. It&#039;s a mindset as much as a tactic.&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle,</p>
<p>Thanks for the info &#8211; makes much more sense. I totally understand that people are busy, but this is part of my beef with traditional PR (and advertising and marketing) business models &#8211; the client is NOT always right, and it&#8217;s the role, the duty of the firm to help the client understand that. Service firms are FAR too scared of losing business. It&#8217;s a vicious circle we get into with clients where we want to make sure they stay happy with us, so we give them what they expect/want regardless of potential success. It&#8217;s a tricky balance, but I&#8217;d love to see agencies of all sorts say &#8220;no thanks&#8221; to business more often. </p>
<p>The other point I&#8217;d make is that a &#8220;relationship&#8221; can take many forms. Some forms take years to build, others minutes. It&#8217;s a mindset as much as a tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Marts</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/103/pitching-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-36419</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Marts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Jake - that was kinda of confusing on my part. The PR kids have a job to do and an agenda...so I think sometimes its difficult for them to get a good conversation going or the time to cultivate the relationship. At least our clients always seem expect results very quickly. But yes, I agree that approaching bloggers in the same way you approach a journalist isn&#039;t going to be effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jake &#8211; that was kinda of confusing on my part. The PR kids have a job to do and an agenda&#8230;so I think sometimes its difficult for them to get a good conversation going or the time to cultivate the relationship. At least our clients always seem expect results very quickly. But yes, I agree that approaching bloggers in the same way you approach a journalist isn&#8217;t going to be effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/103/pitching-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin, I followed up in your comments section. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Michelle, I love that they want to start a relationship... assuming they mean the same thing I mean (and they&#039;re not simply thinking of &quot;relationship&quot; as &quot;we&#039;ve blindly sent some stuff over before and they haven&#039;t called us angry&quot;). When you say &quot;they have an agenda&quot;, do you mean the PR folks?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If so, I get that they have a job to do. But what&#039;s funny is that they&#039;d likely be much more effective if they were just some &quot;nameless PR hack&quot; blindly sending out press releases. Hard to remember that I think</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin, I followed up in your comments section. </p>
<p>Michelle, I love that they want to start a relationship&#8230; assuming they mean the same thing I mean (and they&#8217;re not simply thinking of &#8220;relationship&#8221; as &#8220;we&#8217;ve blindly sent some stuff over before and they haven&#8217;t called us angry&#8221;). When you say &#8220;they have an agenda&#8221;, do you mean the PR folks?</p>
<p>If so, I get that they have a job to do. But what&#8217;s funny is that they&#8217;d likely be much more effective if they were just some &#8220;nameless PR hack&#8221; blindly sending out press releases. Hard to remember that I think</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/103/pitching-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-36418</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 05:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin, I followed up in your comments section. &lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Michelle, I love that they want to start a relationship... assuming they mean the same thing I mean (and they&#039;re not simply thinking of &quot;relationship&quot; as &quot;we&#039;ve blindly sent some stuff over before and they haven&#039;t called us angry&quot;). When you say &quot;they have an agenda&quot;, do you mean the PR folks?&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If so, I get that they have a job to do. But what&#039;s funny is that they&#039;d likely be much more effective if they were just some &quot;nameless PR hack&quot; blindly sending out press releases. Hard to remember that I think&lt;/br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin, I followed up in your comments section. </p>
<p>Michelle, I love that they want to start a relationship&#8230; assuming they mean the same thing I mean (and they&#8217;re not simply thinking of &#8220;relationship&#8221; as &#8220;we&#8217;ve blindly sent some stuff over before and they haven&#8217;t called us angry&#8221;). When you say &#8220;they have an agenda&#8221;, do you mean the PR folks?</p>
<p>If so, I get that they have a job to do. But what&#8217;s funny is that they&#8217;d likely be much more effective if they were just some &#8220;nameless PR hack&#8221; blindly sending out press releases. Hard to remember that I think</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/103/pitching-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve had this conversation with our PR department. It&#039;s a tough one! They always want to &quot;start a relationship&quot; but you know  they have an agenda and a job to do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had this conversation with our PR department. It&#8217;s a tough one! They always want to &#8220;start a relationship&#8221; but you know  they have an agenda and a job to do&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/103/pitching-bloggers/comment-page-1/#comment-36417</link>
		<dc:creator>michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve had this conversation with our PR department. It&#039;s a tough one! They always want to &quot;start a relationship&quot; but you know  they have an agenda and a job to do...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had this conversation with our PR department. It&#8217;s a tough one! They always want to &#8220;start a relationship&#8221; but you know  they have an agenda and a job to do&#8230;</p>
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