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	<title>Comments on: 37Signals: Patchy workarounds are not &#8220;solutions&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/1130/37signals-patchy-workarounds-are-not-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-27312</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site says it all - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whybasecampsux.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.whybasecampsux.org/&lt;/a&gt;.  There are a bunch of great alternatives out there.  37$ are digging themselves into a hole.  Its time to bail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site says it all &#8211; <a href="http://www.whybasecampsux.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.whybasecampsux.org/</a>.  There are a bunch of great alternatives out there.  37$ are digging themselves into a hole.  Its time to bail.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/1130/37signals-patchy-workarounds-are-not-solutions/comment-page-1/#comment-35846</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site says it all - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whybasecampsux.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.whybasecampsux.org/&lt;/a&gt;.  There are a bunch of great alternatives out there.  37$ are digging themselves into a hole.  Its time to bail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site says it all &#8211; <a href="http://www.whybasecampsux.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.whybasecampsux.org/</a>.  There are a bunch of great alternatives out there.  37$ are digging themselves into a hole.  Its time to bail.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Griffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you. Basecamp guys have created software that is popular, but now they don&#039;t want to listen to their customer&#039;s requests. I personally asked them to change this a couple of times. They ignored me, so I decided why stick to Basecamp, if people say that there&#039;s much better software out there. So I switched to Wrike http://www.wrike.com. The tool definitely has more to offer than Basecamp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you. Basecamp guys have created software that is popular, but now they don&#8217;t want to listen to their customer&#8217;s requests. I personally asked them to change this a couple of times. They ignored me, so I decided why stick to Basecamp, if people say that there&#8217;s much better software out there. So I switched to Wrike <a href="http://www.wrike.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wrike.com</a>. The tool definitely has more to offer than Basecamp.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake McKee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake McKee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DHH I&#039;d found that tip, but the problem is that in order to do that you a) have to still have access to the basecamp project you&#039;re trying to remove, and/or b) have to actually log into the site. 

The problem in this case is that I still have access to something I should have access to. I&#039;m trying to remove the connection so that I&#039;m not viewing anything I&#039;m not supposed to without actually having to log into the thing that is off-limits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DHH I&#8217;d found that tip, but the problem is that in order to do that you a) have to still have access to the basecamp project you&#8217;re trying to remove, and/or b) have to actually log into the site. </p>
<p>The problem in this case is that I still have access to something I should have access to. I&#8217;m trying to remove the connection so that I&#8217;m not viewing anything I&#8217;m not supposed to without actually having to log into the thing that is off-limits.</p>
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		<title>By: DHH</title>
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		<dc:creator>DHH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t want to have a certain user account appear in your OpenBar, you can just switch from OpenID to a regular username and password on that user account. That&#039;ll take it out of the bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t want to have a certain user account appear in your OpenBar, you can just switch from OpenID to a regular username and password on that user account. That&#8217;ll take it out of the bar.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Dempsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Dempsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 15:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have been avid users of BaseCamp in the past and while it doesn&#039;t work for us now, we loved it at the time. We do love Campfire however, and use it daily.

Having said that, you bring up a very good point - handling user accounts across a growing list of applications developed by a single company. The lesson here appears to be that if you start out with one application and grow to a suite of applications, you must support a single user account across the entire suite, and make it easy to jump from application to application. I doubt that anyone held back from signing up for all of the 37Signals products, however it is a good lesson for other companies growing their online application portfolio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been avid users of BaseCamp in the past and while it doesn&#8217;t work for us now, we loved it at the time. We do love Campfire however, and use it daily.</p>
<p>Having said that, you bring up a very good point &#8211; handling user accounts across a growing list of applications developed by a single company. The lesson here appears to be that if you start out with one application and grow to a suite of applications, you must support a single user account across the entire suite, and make it easy to jump from application to application. I doubt that anyone held back from signing up for all of the 37Signals products, however it is a good lesson for other companies growing their online application portfolio.</p>
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