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		<title>By: Jake McKee</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/1200/blog-council-feedback-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-32977</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake McKee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stephen, I certainly can&#039;t fault your thinking regarding engaging bloggers. I recommend that approach regularly to clients. 

But not every problem requires the same solution. In this case, these are people who are already blogging. Perhaps blogging in large amounts that may know as much, if not more, as any of the blogger types you have in mind. The challenges the Blog Council members face are simply not the same challenges smaller bloggers have. I&#039;ve mentioned them elsewhere, but a few random refreshers:

* How to blog for multiple languages when you only speak one
* How to deal with open communication when your market launches may be staggered for various reasons
* Getting colleagues on board with this &quot;blogging and transparency thing&quot;
* How to take suggestions and properly funnel them through an organization to completion (or at least resolution)
* When to spend marketing money on/around the blogging efforts and when to reject it
* How to blog openly (and thus correctly) in the face of SEC issues
* Alignment of information coming out of the organization (not to get the &quot;message&quot; spun right, but to ensure that the real, actual facts are ALL coming out as the real story, not a single, country-specific part of a larger story)

I&#039;d challenge you to find ANY &quot;smaller blogger&quot; who could offer any real input on issues like these. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stephen, I certainly can&#8217;t fault your thinking regarding engaging bloggers. I recommend that approach regularly to clients. </p>
<p>But not every problem requires the same solution. In this case, these are people who are already blogging. Perhaps blogging in large amounts that may know as much, if not more, as any of the blogger types you have in mind. The challenges the Blog Council members face are simply not the same challenges smaller bloggers have. I&#8217;ve mentioned them elsewhere, but a few random refreshers:</p>
<p>* How to blog for multiple languages when you only speak one<br />
* How to deal with open communication when your market launches may be staggered for various reasons<br />
* Getting colleagues on board with this &#8220;blogging and transparency thing&#8221;<br />
* How to take suggestions and properly funnel them through an organization to completion (or at least resolution)<br />
* When to spend marketing money on/around the blogging efforts and when to reject it<br />
* How to blog openly (and thus correctly) in the face of SEC issues<br />
* Alignment of information coming out of the organization (not to get the &#8220;message&#8221; spun right, but to ensure that the real, actual facts are ALL coming out as the real story, not a single, country-specific part of a larger story)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d challenge you to find ANY &#8220;smaller blogger&#8221; who could offer any real input on issues like these. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake McKee</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/1200/blog-council-feedback-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-36202</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake McKee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Stephen, I certainly can&#039;t fault your thinking regarding engaging bloggers. I recommend that approach regularly to clients. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But not every problem requires the same solution. In this case, these are people who are already blogging. Perhaps blogging in large amounts that may know as much, if not more, as any of the blogger types you have in mind. The challenges the Blog Council members face are simply not the same challenges smaller bloggers have. I&#039;ve mentioned them elsewhere, but a few random refreshers:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* How to blog for multiple languages when you only speak one&lt;br&gt;* How to deal with open communication when your market launches may be staggered for various reasons&lt;br&gt;* Getting colleagues on board with this &quot;blogging and transparency thing&quot;&lt;br&gt;* How to take suggestions and properly funnel them through an organization to completion (or at least resolution)&lt;br&gt;* When to spend marketing money on/around the blogging efforts and when to reject it&lt;br&gt;* How to blog openly (and thus correctly) in the face of SEC issues&lt;br&gt;* Alignment of information coming out of the organization (not to get the &quot;message&quot; spun right, but to ensure that the real, actual facts are ALL coming out as the real story, not a single, country-specific part of a larger story)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d challenge you to find ANY &quot;smaller blogger&quot; who could offer any real input on issues like these. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stephen, I certainly can&#8217;t fault your thinking regarding engaging bloggers. I recommend that approach regularly to clients. </p>
<p>But not every problem requires the same solution. In this case, these are people who are already blogging. Perhaps blogging in large amounts that may know as much, if not more, as any of the blogger types you have in mind. The challenges the Blog Council members face are simply not the same challenges smaller bloggers have. I&#8217;ve mentioned them elsewhere, but a few random refreshers:</p>
<p>* How to blog for multiple languages when you only speak one<br />* How to deal with open communication when your market launches may be staggered for various reasons<br />* Getting colleagues on board with this &#8220;blogging and transparency thing&#8221;<br />* How to take suggestions and properly funnel them through an organization to completion (or at least resolution)<br />* When to spend marketing money on/around the blogging efforts and when to reject it<br />* How to blog openly (and thus correctly) in the face of SEC issues<br />* Alignment of information coming out of the organization (not to get the &#8220;message&#8221; spun right, but to ensure that the real, actual facts are ALL coming out as the real story, not a single, country-specific part of a larger story)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d challenge you to find ANY &#8220;smaller blogger&#8221; who could offer any real input on issues like these. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
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		<title>By: @Stephen &#124; Productivity in Context</title>
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		<dc:creator>@Stephen &#124; Productivity in Context</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jake,
I came across the post at Airbag and I thought it was a humorous jab at the suits trying to be hip. I agree that it has gotten out of control. In fact, I riffed on that post myself and got a surprisingly defensive reply from Sean Cheyney at Accuquote. (see the link above). I responded and e-mailed Sean, who replied with a very polite and informed apology for jumping on me. I believe that he and I will have a conversation about this (isn&#039;t that what this is all about?) as I looked at his program and gave him some pointers.

I submit that the larger point made by Greg (from Airbag) is that while the Internet has changed the way everything works, the big, stove-piped organizations still don&#039;t get it.

Marketing ploys like the Blog Council show that the cynical can still take advantage of the old-school corporate types that want to keep doing things the old-fashioned way. 

My own suggestion: Invite a bunch of the smaller bloggers, some of us who have built a decent following based on our work rather than gimmicks and ploys and the affiliate-program-of-the-week to join you for a meeting. 
Book a conference room at the Marriott, serve some drinks and plenty of food, take your ties off and talk to them. 
Have some flip-charts and laptops with internet connections handy.
Assign a few of your own folks to stay sober and write down all of the comments and observations.
Afterwards, keep in touch with these guys and gals, send emails, ask for advice and guest posts.
Help us help you. Thanks for listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jake,<br />
I came across the post at Airbag and I thought it was a humorous jab at the suits trying to be hip. I agree that it has gotten out of control. In fact, I riffed on that post myself and got a surprisingly defensive reply from Sean Cheyney at Accuquote. (see the link above). I responded and e-mailed Sean, who replied with a very polite and informed apology for jumping on me. I believe that he and I will have a conversation about this (isn&#8217;t that what this is all about?) as I looked at his program and gave him some pointers.</p>
<p>I submit that the larger point made by Greg (from Airbag) is that while the Internet has changed the way everything works, the big, stove-piped organizations still don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>Marketing ploys like the Blog Council show that the cynical can still take advantage of the old-school corporate types that want to keep doing things the old-fashioned way. </p>
<p>My own suggestion: Invite a bunch of the smaller bloggers, some of us who have built a decent following based on our work rather than gimmicks and ploys and the affiliate-program-of-the-week to join you for a meeting.<br />
Book a conference room at the Marriott, serve some drinks and plenty of food, take your ties off and talk to them.<br />
Have some flip-charts and laptops with internet connections handy.<br />
Assign a few of your own folks to stay sober and write down all of the comments and observations.<br />
Afterwards, keep in touch with these guys and gals, send emails, ask for advice and guest posts.<br />
Help us help you. Thanks for listening.</p>
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		<title>By: @Stephen &#124; Productivity in Con</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/1200/blog-council-feedback-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-36201</link>
		<dc:creator>@Stephen &#124; Productivity in Con</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jake,&lt;br&gt;I came across the post at Airbag and I thought it was a humorous jab at the suits trying to be hip. I agree that it has gotten out of control. In fact, I riffed on that post myself and got a surprisingly defensive reply from Sean Cheyney at Accuquote. (see the link above). I responded and e-mailed Sean, who replied with a very polite and informed apology for jumping on me. I believe that he and I will have a conversation about this (isn&#039;t that what this is all about?) as I looked at his program and gave him some pointers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I submit that the larger point made by Greg (from Airbag) is that while the Internet has changed the way everything works, the big, stove-piped organizations still don&#039;t get it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Marketing ploys like the Blog Council show that the cynical can still take advantage of the old-school corporate types that want to keep doing things the old-fashioned way. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My own suggestion: Invite a bunch of the smaller bloggers, some of us who have built a decent following based on our work rather than gimmicks and ploys and the affiliate-program-of-the-week to join you for a meeting. &lt;br&gt;Book a conference room at the Marriott, serve some drinks and plenty of food, take your ties off and talk to them. &lt;br&gt;Have some flip-charts and laptops with internet connections handy.&lt;br&gt;Assign a few of your own folks to stay sober and write down all of the comments and observations.&lt;br&gt;Afterwards, keep in touch with these guys and gals, send emails, ask for advice and guest posts.&lt;br&gt;Help us help you. Thanks for listening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jake,<br />I came across the post at Airbag and I thought it was a humorous jab at the suits trying to be hip. I agree that it has gotten out of control. In fact, I riffed on that post myself and got a surprisingly defensive reply from Sean Cheyney at Accuquote. (see the link above). I responded and e-mailed Sean, who replied with a very polite and informed apology for jumping on me. I believe that he and I will have a conversation about this (isn&#8217;t that what this is all about?) as I looked at his program and gave him some pointers.</p>
<p>I submit that the larger point made by Greg (from Airbag) is that while the Internet has changed the way everything works, the big, stove-piped organizations still don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>Marketing ploys like the Blog Council show that the cynical can still take advantage of the old-school corporate types that want to keep doing things the old-fashioned way. </p>
<p>My own suggestion: Invite a bunch of the smaller bloggers, some of us who have built a decent following based on our work rather than gimmicks and ploys and the affiliate-program-of-the-week to join you for a meeting. <br />Book a conference room at the Marriott, serve some drinks and plenty of food, take your ties off and talk to them. <br />Have some flip-charts and laptops with internet connections handy.<br />Assign a few of your own folks to stay sober and write down all of the comments and observations.<br />Afterwards, keep in touch with these guys and gals, send emails, ask for advice and guest posts.<br />Help us help you. Thanks for listening.</p>
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		<title>By: Micheal Savoie</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/1200/blog-council-feedback-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-32961</link>
		<dc:creator>Micheal Savoie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny to see my Canadian counterpart quoted on a blog... I am a Canadian-American originally named Michel Savoie when I lived in Lauzon back way too long to remember, and when I became an American citizen I changed the spelling to Micheal to fit in better, although I did not choose the Anglicized version...

Still, seeing the Savoie name in so many places makes me feel good and now that I know there are other Michel, Mike, Michael Savoie&#039;s out there blogging, too, it makes me feel that my work is not in vain!

Savoies of the blogosphere, unite!

Have an amazing day!

Micheal Savoie
Beverly Hills, Florida
http://soldurl.com/SantaSal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny to see my Canadian counterpart quoted on a blog&#8230; I am a Canadian-American originally named Michel Savoie when I lived in Lauzon back way too long to remember, and when I became an American citizen I changed the spelling to Micheal to fit in better, although I did not choose the Anglicized version&#8230;</p>
<p>Still, seeing the Savoie name in so many places makes me feel good and now that I know there are other Michel, Mike, Michael Savoie&#8217;s out there blogging, too, it makes me feel that my work is not in vain!</p>
<p>Savoies of the blogosphere, unite!</p>
<p>Have an amazing day!</p>
<p>Micheal Savoie<br />
Beverly Hills, Florida<br />
<a href="http://soldurl.com/SantaSal" rel="nofollow">http://soldurl.com/SantaSal</a></p>
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		<title>By: Micheal Savoie</title>
		<link>http://www.communityguy.com/1200/blog-council-feedback-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-36200</link>
		<dc:creator>Micheal Savoie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 04:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny to see my Canadian counterpart quoted on a blog... I am a Canadian-American originally named Michel Savoie when I lived in Lauzon back way too long to remember, and when I became an American citizen I changed the spelling to Micheal to fit in better, although I did not choose the Anglicized version...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still, seeing the Savoie name in so many places makes me feel good and now that I know there are other Michel, Mike, Michael Savoie&#039;s out there blogging, too, it makes me feel that my work is not in vain!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Savoies of the blogosphere, unite!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have an amazing day!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Micheal Savoie&lt;br&gt;Beverly Hills, Florida&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://soldurl.com/SantaSal&quot;&gt;http://soldurl.com/SantaSal&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny to see my Canadian counterpart quoted on a blog&#8230; I am a Canadian-American originally named Michel Savoie when I lived in Lauzon back way too long to remember, and when I became an American citizen I changed the spelling to Micheal to fit in better, although I did not choose the Anglicized version&#8230;</p>
<p>Still, seeing the Savoie name in so many places makes me feel good and now that I know there are other Michel, Mike, Michael Savoie&#8217;s out there blogging, too, it makes me feel that my work is not in vain!</p>
<p>Savoies of the blogosphere, unite!</p>
<p>Have an amazing day!</p>
<p>Micheal Savoie<br />Beverly Hills, Florida<br /><a href="http://soldurl.com/SantaSal">http://soldurl.com/SantaSal</a></p>
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