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Breaking the Open and Honest Mantra

February 28th, 2006 | Comments | Posted in Building Community

Want to know what happens when companies start breaking the Open and Honest mantra? NVidia gets busted for stealth marketing – giving major freebies to a small group who couldn’t share their association with NVidia but were encouraged to promote them. From this article (where there’s much more info):


About a week ago, The Consumerist stumbled upon claims made by various gaming websites (specifically, Elite Bastards and [Update: a poster on the forums at] Beyond3D) that graphics chip manufacturer Nvidia, in cooperation with the Arbuthnot Entertainment Group (AEG), had seeded various gaming and PC hardware enthusiast sites with pro-Nvidia shills. That is to say, that AEG would hire employees to create ‘personas’ in various gaming communities, slowly building up the trust of other members by frequent posting unrelated to Nvidia, to later cash in that trust with message board postings talking up the positive qualities of Nvidia’s products.



Now don’t get me wrong, I think the initial concept of connecting and working directly with a select group of fans is a great idea. Heck, that’s the core of the idea I put together at LEGO, the LEGO Ambassadors.



Where the concept goes off the rails is in the "stealth" component. This is a terrific idea, why would you try to hide it?? The answer to that is likely quite simple, of course. They’re trying to create artificial buzz, rather than true buzz. Artificial buzz doesn’t have the same reliance on a quality product that real buzz does.



But once off the rails, the worst problem was the reaction. As you can see in this mail to the blogger that broke the story, the tone of the NVidia rep was horrid:


Hey Joel.

Boy – read your article – you couldn’t have gotten it more wrong.

Do you really not know what AEG does? Did you go to their website? Do you understand their business?

Seems before you write an editorial article on this you would educate yourself.

AEG helps us to manage the online community – we engage with some NV fans to help educate people on the web.

They are NOT hired actors!

They are NOT “shils”!

Happy to answer more questions – but it seems as if you need to do some research first.

Cheers Derek

This is the head of Public Relations for NVidia? Do you honestly think he would ever talk to a journalist like this?? Yeah, I doubt it too.



The worst part of this whole situation, however, is the fact that there’s such an incredible opportunity for real buzz to be created by showing that NVidia wants to work closely with their fans, to support the gaming community however they can.



I’m going to invite the AEG folks to come on the Community Guy podcast. I’m very intrigued by the description of their services, and am curious to see what type of approach they take. Is it more about connecting NVidia to their consumers? Or is are they more focused stealth marketing? If you want to know the answer, leave a comment!




The Customer Interaction Manifesto

I’ve been working on community/company interaction thing for a while now, and I’m continually surprised at how many people ask me what the guidelines are, the rules for working directly with consumers. Perhaps it’s time for a manifesto, something us marketing folks can use as a baseline before charging into social groups trying to meet our revenue objectives. The focus here isn’t on building online community as a company rep (Guy covers the basics of that wonderfully). Rather the focus is how, as a company rep, to interact with existing online and offline communities, social groups.

NOTE: I’ll be continually updating this as I get feedback and tweak the language. I would very much like to hear your feedback on this manifesto in order to create something larger that just my opinions and approach.

So without further ado I present:

The Customer Interaction Manifesto

Honesty is not only the best policy, it’s the only policy
As I’ve blogged about before, honesty (and openness) is the basis of your entire interaction with consumers and colleagues. It’s not just about lies or lack thereof – it’s about the free exchange of honest information. “Open and honest” should be included in your new employee handbook and should be a mantra for company culture. This doesn’t mean that you should start sharing company secrets – quite the contrary. It means that if you can’t share company secrets, simply say that. It means employees need to understand that nothing they do is hidden or secret anymore. And it means that we all need to really stop and consider what’s really a “secret” and what’s simply bothersome to discuss.

Survey the landscape.
Before you start any interaction with consumers, make absolutely sure you understand the landscape. Fire up Google. Talk to you call center/customer service folks. Pick the brains of colleagues who have been around for years. Read up on the company history. Learn about what’s going on inside your company. Learn what your colleagues think of consumers and consumer groups. Figure out what the consumers are saying about your company. The moment you start interacting with consumers, they’re going to have questions – lots and lots of questions.

Their cause is your cause. Join it.
Once you understand the landscape, you’ll should know what their higher cause is. People don’t form and interact with communities in order to support a company. They do it to serve their own emotional needs. It’s not about Apple, and it’s not about the Apple iPod. It’s about helping others find and listen to music. It’s not about helping Fox make money off of the show Firefly, it’s about ensuring that others can experience the joy of watching the great show Firefly. If consumers feel strongly about something, whatever it is, then you should feel strongly about it too.

Listen. Always.
The moment you step into any community/consumer interaction you better be ready to listen. Every single time you get in front of consumers, physically or virtually, you’d better be taking notes, engaging in active listening techniques, and overall paying complete and total attention to what the consumers are saying. For every point you make, you should be listening to 20 points they make.

Share. A lot.
As part of an open and honest relationship, you should be sharing answers to questions, company news, and anything else that consumers are asking about, or you think is important to them. Small, pointless details to you are gold to your fans. They don’t get to see all the activity inside your company like you do, don’t forget that. And if you don’t know, just say it. Saying “I don’t know, but I’m happy to look into it for you” is an amazingly powerful message.

Drive the process, but stop for directions
Your consumers are a powerful force when they link up (whether in online forums, offline groups, or personal blogs), and there’s no question about their ability to do amazing things. But after forming a relationship and interaction with them, your job as the company rep is to help drive the process forward, support the cause. You get to work all day long on things that fans only have time for in their free time. You should be seeing the entire community holistically in a way that few people do. That means you should be able to see the future, to some extent. It’s your job to help push the community forward, after all. But don’t forget that the journey you’re on requires that you stop for directions, constantly.

Walk a mile
You can’t be remotely effective as a community liaison if you’re not a community member yourself. You can’t work effectively with an iPod community if you don’t own an iPod or understand the online music scene. You can’t represent a gaming company if you don’t play games on a regular basis. Not only do you not have any street cred, you simply don’t have the information and “resources” to be at all successful in your liaison role. Go to community events, volunteer to moderate the online forum, meet the fans in person. If the community members aren’t asking “Is this a company employee or a community member?”, then you’re not integrating yourself deeply enough.

Learn to take a good beating
That’s right, you’re the lightning rod for all upset, problems, and irritations community members have for your company. Take it personally, but only as far as it drives you to solve the problem. When you complete the circle of feedback (they give you feedback, you acknowledge, you address it, you share the outcome, they give you feedback again), they’ll begin to see that you’re looking out for them, and things will get less adversarial. Stick with it, it’ll get better and easier with every passing day. Remember – you’re not only overcoming any issues that consumers have with your company, you’re working on overcoming negative consumer perception of all companies.

It’s your family – fight for it, defend it
Above all else, your role as a community liaison is one of support. Your main function is to fight for your consumers. As marketers we’ve all been taught that it’s “not personal, it’s business”. But that belief falls apart when your company starts forming real relationships with real people. Think of your role as the older brother/sister, looking out for your younger sibling.

Help! We need Flash Programmers!

February 24th, 2006 | Comments | Posted in Uncategorized

I mentioned a while back that I was changing jobs. I keep meaning to post here about the move, but man oh man have I been busy! I’m now at a great marketing agency in Dallas – Slingshot. I’ve been here a week and a half and I’m already knee deep in several very cool community projects.



As part of these projects, we’re in desperate need of some strong Flash programmers. Flash programmers – folks who perhaps came into Flash via a traditional programming background. Folks who have a solid understanding of how to architect Flash based systems.



If you have any info/contacts/interest, please feel free to email directly:


jmckee AT davidandgoliath DOT com



Thanks in advance for your help!

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Now we’re getting somewhere

February 22nd, 2006 | Comments | Posted in Building Community

You know you’ve reached the big time when the Daily Show is riffing on you – recently it was MySpace’s (and general social networking) turn.



UPDATE: For some reason the Google Video has been removed. Check out the clear here.


Experiential Marketing Summit

February 20th, 2006 | Comments | Posted in Events and Speaking

If you’re interested, I’ll be speaking at the Experiential Marketing Summit, May 8-10, 2006 in Chicago.


EVENT TWIST: SUPPORTING YOUR OWN CUSTOMERS’ EVENTS

The most passionate customers don’t wait for your marketing. Fan clubs and fanfests are popping up left and right as brand evangelists (Star Wars fans, eBay fanatics) look for ways to congregate and celebrate the brands they love. But knowing how and when to tap into those events and determining the proper ways to support key customer guilds (without forcing corporate initiatives into the fray) can be a delicate science. Case study: A core group of Lego’s most loyal consumers—on their own—have created virtual communities and actual events built around all things Lego. You’ll hear from Lego’s community-building evangelist about the right approach for nurturing the brand’s most important relationships.



Should be a good time – looks like a fun event. Unfortunately, I have the dreaded "last session of the day" spot, but that’s OK by me. I’m happy to send people home with non-traditional thinking firmly planted in their minds!



(And of course, I’m not longer in this role, but I’ll be talking about the experiences learned anyway)









Interview Feed

February 18th, 2006 | Comments | Posted in I'm Famous!

If you’re interested, I’ve collected all of my podcast interviews I’ve done around various sites into one handy RSS feed. I’ll keep it updated as I make my way into the hearts and podcast interviews of folks all over.



Check it out here




I’m in another book

February 7th, 2006 | Comments | Posted in I'm Famous!

I just saw a copy of another book I was interviewed for: Primal Branding. Looks like it’s going to be a fun read, and the author got my points very accurately (not something that always happens with writers).








Creating my own words

February 7th, 2006 | Comments | Posted in Building Community

I’d like to propose a word:



eKnow: To know someone through online interaction only, often having never met the person physically, but feeling a close relationship to that person.



For instance:



"Do you eKnow Mr. Smith? I’d love to have you introduce us via email."



As we move forward socially as a society, I think this will be a more and more significant interaction. People we’re close to may not be in our physical presence.









Putting your inner Schmooze to work

February 6th, 2006 | Comments | Posted in Tricks of the Trade

“It’s not what you know or who you know, but who knows you.” Susan RoAne.



Guy Kawasaki opens his blog entry "The Art of Schmoozing" with that quote. I’ve included the full list of his points, and have added in a few comments about how it relates to my work as a community liaison. Enjoy!





1. Understand the goal. Darcy Rezac in his book, The Frog and the Prince, wrote the world’s best definition of schmoozing: “Discovering what you can do for someone else.” Herein lies eighty percent of the battle: great schmoozers want to know what they can do for you, not what the you can do for them. If you understand this, the rest is just mechanics.



That is such an incredibly perfect quote. Working with community is all about the mantra "everybody goes home happy". And what makes you, the company rep, happy is seeing people do more with your product, being brand ambassadors. So that means your task as  the community rep is helping them to stay interested and identify opportunities you know they will enjoy. You meet your goals by ensuring their goals are priority 1.



2. Get out. Schmoozing is an analog, contact sport. You can’t do it alone from your office on the phone or via a computer. You may hate them but force yourself to go to tradeshows, conventions, and seminars. It’s unlikely that you’ll be closing a big order with someone you met online at MySpace or via Skype. Get out there and press flesh.



In the more than 5 years I was at LEGO, I racked up 450,000 American Airlines miles. I attended events all over the world, from large 40,000 people event hall events to small 4 person garage events. Much of this is simply showing "I’m here – the company is, in fact interested in you". You loose much of the "big company" stigma and stink when you willingly go have chips and salsa and beers at some fan’s house while looking over his LEGO creations.


3. Ask good questions, then shut up. The mark of a good conversationalist is not that you can talk a lot. The mark is that you can get others to talk a lot. Thus, good schmoozers are good listeners, not good talkers. Ask softball questions like, “What do you do?” “Where are you from?” “What brings you to this event?” Then listen. Ironically, you’ll be remembered as an interesting person.



Spot on. I’ve taken a few colleagues with me to events who have spent most of their time there trying to correct misconceptions that fans may have about certain issues. One tactic I always try first is to ask leading questions and let the fans get to the answer on their own. Tends to work more times than not.


4. Unveil your passions. Only talking about business is boring. Good schmoozers unveil their passions after they get to know you. Great schmoozers lead off with their passions. Your passions make you an interesting person–you’ll stick out because you’re the only person not talking about 802.11 chipsets at the wireless conference. Personally, my passions are children, Macintosh, Breitling watches, digital photography, and hockey if you ever meet me.



For me, there’s two pieces to this. Yes, you need to ensure that the community members see you as a human rather than a community rep. But it is also extremely important to know your game. If you show up in front of hobbyists and don’t know as much or more about the hobby than they do, then it’s way to easy to write you off as a "marketing schmoo". Don’t talk about only company business, but be really ready when the subject comes up. Which leads to the next point….


5. Read voraciously. In order to be a good schmoozer, you need to read voraciously–and not just the EE Times, PC Magazine, and the Wall Street Journal. You need a broad base of knowledge so that you can access a vast array of information during conversations. Even if you are a pathetic passionless person, you can at least be a well-read one who can talk about a variety of topics.



As in the point above, it’s absolutely good to have a rounded knowledge. But ensure that you’re keeping up with all community activity and discussions. Even if one part of the hobby interests you more than another, you’d better be fully versed in all aspects of the hobby.


6. Follow up. Over the course of my career, I’ve gave away thousands of business cards. At one point, I thought I was nuts because if all those people called or emailed me, I’d never get anything done. Funny thing: hardly anyone ever follows up. Frankly, I don’t know why people bother asking for a business card if they’re not going to follow up. Great schmoozers follow up within twenty-four hours–just a short email will do: “Nice to meet you. I hope we can do something together. Hope your blog is doing well. I loved your Breitling watch. I have two tickets to the Stanley Cup Finals if you want to attend.” Include at least one thing to show the recipient that she isn’t getting a canned email.



My colleagues always ask me: "How can you give out your cards? Aren’t you worried you’ll get a flood of emails or phone calls?" The answer is a simple: no.



First off, I had some methods I employee to combat any possible contact overflow. First, I had two sets of business cards – one with my full contact details, and one with only my email address. Both worked equally well for getting the point across that I was interested in hearing from the fans. But while 90% of the fans were respectful of my weekend time, 10% weren’t. So giving out my cell phone or desk phone was not something I did much. There was a sliding scale of contact. Everyone had my email, some had my instant messenger, and very few had my phone.



But over the years, I too have given out my contact info a great many times. And it resulted in nearly 17,000 incoming emails from fans. But as strange as this may sound, that was fairly managable.


7. Make it easy to get in touch. Many people who want to be great schmoozers, ironically, don’t make it easy to get in touch with them. They don’t carry business cards, or their business cards don’t have phone numbers and email addresses. Even if they provide this information, it’s in grey six-point type. This is great if you’re schmoozing teenagers, but if you want an old, rich, famous, powerful people to call or email, you’d better use a twelve-point font. (These are the same folks that need the thirty-point font vis-a-vis the 10/20/30 Rule of PowerPoint.)



From a practical standpoint, make your "community friendly" email address easy. I had to fight the LEGO IT tooth and nail to get jake@lego.com in addition to my standard jacob.mckee@america.lego.com, and it was well worth it. People can actually remember the first off the top of their head, even if they completely forget it. The second one…well…..



When talking about community, it’s also a culture thing. You have to make it clear that it’s OK to contact you. One of the reasons I had 17,000 incoming emails is because I made it clear over and over and over that it was OK to contact me. That 90% of fans are completely polite and respectful and don’t want to bother you while you’re working… even if your job is to be bothered.



8. Give favors. One of my great pleasures in life is helping other people; I believe there’s a big Karmic scoreboard in the sky. God is keeping track of the good that you do, and She is particularly pleased when you give favors without the expectation of return from the recipient. The scoreboard always pays back. You can also guess that I strongly believe in returning favors for people who have helped you.



This has come in so very handy over the years. This is as much about having the favors returned as it is creating a culture of support. You do something nice for community Web site A, then when they received leaked photos of your new products, they’re much less inclinded to post them without asking you if it’s OK. Favors are the juice that makes your job possible.


9. Ask for the return of favors. Good schmoozers give favors. Good schmoozers also return favors. However, great schmoozers ask for the return of favors. You may find this puzzling: Isn’t it better to keep someone indebted to you? The answer is no, and this is because keeping someone indebted to you puts undue pressure on your relationship. Any decent person feels guility and indebted. By asking for, and receiving, a return favor, you clear the decks, relieve the pressure, and set up for a whole new round of give and take. After a few rounds of give and take, you’re best friends, and you have mastered the art of schmoozing.



This is also how a relationship is formed. And since relationships are the core of a community person’s activities, you can’t wait to start building them.


Where is Innovation Happening?

February 6th, 2006 | Comments | Posted in Building Community

I found this cool mashup today – the Innovation Map. It uses Google Maps to show where some of the American Web 2.0 companies are located.



The most interesting thing to me is that, unlike the first dot com boom, the comes are spread all over the country. Sure there’s a bigger concentration on the coasts, but that tends to happen in any industry. I was happy to see three companies in Dallas, where I live!



Yet another reason I think we’re far, far from another bubble.